MMP Episode 313: catchup: arm breaks, summer shifts, and existential contemplations
This week, join Laura and Jess for life updates along with reflections on the power of perspective shifts, summertime transitions, and some serious existential aging musings.
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MMP Episode 313: catchup: arm breaks, summer shifts, and existential contemplations.
MMP Ep. 313: catchup: arm breaks, summer shifts, and existential contemplations
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I love outdoor adventure, good food, especially sourdough [00:01:00] and
Jess: mindful movement. And I'm Jess of Hold The Space Wellness. I'm a level one CrossFit trainer, a licensed and certified athletic trainer with a Masters in Kinesiology. And Mama Taben. Camille, I love food, trying new things, creating art, and being a perpetual learner.
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Jess: man. What a week. I can't wait to dive in because I saw something in your stories yesterday and I was like, it was like literal, like a record scratch. And I was like, what You do what? What?
Laura: I saw your messages funny. I'm like, I'm gonna talk to her in an hour. I'll just tell it in because it's funny cuz I feel Instagram's algorithms are so weird.
Cause I shared in my feed, I shared in a post. What happened? Oh, I haven't seen it at all. Sort of. Okay. I just feel like I don't owe Instagram. People like all the nuances of like how it happened and everything. But in case you're at waiting at beta breath, Evie broke her arm. Mm-hmm. Climbing down or falling down from a tree at forest school and Oh, it's a bummer.
Yeah. But she's a trooper. It was like, so this week has been wild and I, I was just talking to my friend about how like, If the same situations that have unfolded this week had unfolded like three weeks ago, I might have broken. Mm-hmm. But I've been like laughing through it and dancing through it and making pizza in our pizza oven and [00:05:00] still finding time for like, for joy and still feeling very productive.
It's been a really, I say like my daughter broke her arm. We had some car issues. Like things like that. And I, I'm in such a good head space. Oh my gosh. That's
Jess: like, I have phenomenal 800 things
Laura: coming this weekend. I mean, it is like, there is so much going on logistically, but it's amazing how like mental health and supporting ourselves in that way and also just like the things, like the timing of things can so dramatically impact the way that we move through situations.
Mm-hmm. And we try to teach this to Evie and. Andy sort of, you know, even at this age all the time, where it's like all we can control sometimes is how we respond to situations. And this week has been very much an example of that. But yeah, Tuesday was already crazy. Like all of our typical rituals were kind of shuffled and switched.
And I thank goodness for good weather this week because I was able to walk and still maintain my work sessions cuz we only had one car. And then I'm recording a podcast in the middle of the day, the time that I don't typically record a podcast. [00:06:00] Mm-hmm. And Rusty's trying to get indie down and that's usually my task.
And he walks in halfway through. I'm down in the basement because that's the only place I could do it. And he walks in with her when I thought she was asleep, and he kind of looks at me. No, not no clear indication of what was going on. I thought he was frustrated cuz she wouldn't go down. And I kind of looked at him, not like, Hey, get the hell out of here.
Kind of like, what's going on? And he just turned around and, and walked out. And I was like, okay. I think he didn't realize it was also a video recording. Mm-hmm. So anyways, he, he leaves and I finished the recording and I go upstairs expecting like him to be like, oh man, okay, your turn to try to get her down.
And the house was empty. I was like, huh. And so I call him and I was like, what's up? And uh, he's like, yeah, we got a call from maybe school. She fell out of a tree and hurt her arm. I've gotta go get her. So he brought Indy with her. So then on top of all the car shuffling, like Indy didn't nap. Matt was crazy.
We had plans to go to the lake that afternoon with friends. Obviously that didn't happen. He brings her home. In the meantime, I'm walking to the car place to pick up our car and then he gets home. He, he's like, just, [00:07:00] I'll come get you. I'll meet you. So then we do a car switch. I bring the girls home and she was in pain.
Mm-hmm. Like kind of whiny, but also I. Like, I still wanna go to Lake, you know? And then we get home and then she's like more whiny. I think, as many of you probably can relate to, you bring a kid home from a long day at school. Mm-hmm. Especially with an injury and they like hold it together sort of. Mm-hmm.
And then they get like, home is the safe space to just emote. Mm-hmm. So a lot more feelings, a lot more frustrations, a lot more I think realizing, and we weren't sure at that point what was going on, but it's like,
Jess: because it wasn't like an obvious break.
Laura: No, it was, it's a fracture. Okay. So she could move her hand like her wrist forward and back forward and back.
She can't twist her forearm at all. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And there it was like a little swollen. And so, and we were like talking to her about it. We waited, we iced it, you know, waited. And then I. She was like, it feels like when I try to twist this way, like it feels like there's something in there that's like blocking it.
And we were like, okay, it's not working, you know? So then Rusty and indie was just kind of beside herself, you know? She gets [00:08:00] so weird when she's tired. It's pretty hilarious. But also like I needed to get that kid outta the house, and I didn't really want that point. It was like too late in the day. So anyways, rusty takes her to the walk-in clinic and I, we all sat in the backyard and had ice cream together first, and then, then he took her to the walk-in clinic and I took indie to the beach.
We have this one beach that's like the mouth of the Elwa River meets the. Straight of Wanda Fuka. It's insane. It's only like 12 minutes from our house. So I loaded her up. It was like 80 something degrees. I was feeling a little bit of anxiety because when the weather is that way, like I have to get out into it.
Mm-hmm. Because this time of year especially, it's not, it's not that frequent. This spring has been unusual and the weather's been unreal, but so, and I got out to the water and like totally downregulated my nervous system. Like I know the things that I have to do and honestly, with the past two months I didn't wanna go back to the hospital.
A little triggering. Mm-hmm. It was a very stressful time for me, you know, and so, and Rusty, it was no question. It wasn't like, who's gonna take her? It was like he was handling it, and I think [00:09:00] that really made him feel good. I think that's what Evie needed in that moment. I think Andy needed me. We need to get outside.
So all the pieces just fell in and like communication was easy and it was just, it was simple. So I took e Andy to the beach. And then we came home. And on top of all this, so we've set up our backyard and I think this has been another huge piece. It's like we've set our backyard to be just this like really lovely space for hanging out.
And I know you kind of went through this, was it last season that you mm-hmm. Fixed up your yard? Yeah. Uh,
Jess: I can't remember, but yes. In there. Yeah. You get it. Yeah.
Laura: It's game changing. Rusty built this really cool table. We bought da, da da a
Jess: pizza Avid, an Emmy. Oh. So exciting
Laura: and I am now an affiliate with them.
I don't even like, I literally don't have the words for how it changes the pizza, the crust. I don't, this thing cranks up to like 700 plus degrees. You get to watch it sizzle and you get to watch the sourdough crust like rise and bubble, and it is. Like this, experience that, and I'm a seven and I love food and I love [00:10:00] sourdough.
So like it's all these things in combination. Mm-hmm. But it brings me so much joy. Anyways, if you're interested in one, I have a link game changing. So anyways, because we, we were doing pizza with friends and he ended up ordering one while we were there cause we were having this like crazy memorial weekend sale.
So he built this really nice, like it's, I mean it's rustic, but he built this outdoor kind of counter table situation. And then we have our grill and we could put the UNE on there. And we have our Adirondack, we just bought like the nicer plastic Adirondack chairs. We've got our fire pit, we've got our garden beds.
And so we've just been hanging out and eating meals out there. And so I get home and I like set Andy's camping highchair thing on that table. We eat a dinner together. I Did you get an element out like Bluetooth speaker? Oh yeah.
Jess: Bananas that up we're listening to Yeah, we're we're listening to like
Laura: the Okie dokie brothers on Pandora.
And, and then they rescued Evie come home, come into the side gate, like I grill them up some hotdogs and make 'em some focaccia and we just like audible cuz we had this plan of this picnic at the lake with the [00:11:00] focaccia and all the things, and we just like, it was all okay. We just shifted gears. They came home, they ate, and then we, I got in the bath and it was just like a very slow roll into the evening and into bedtime and like, you know, lots of RN and.
Just trying to give her space to feel, but also like ride that line between like, yes, this is unfortunate, but again, that conversation around like you get to control how you respond to this and. You know what? She kept thinking about the things she doesn't, she can't do anymore. She's like her. So we're host, we're having her birthday party this weekend, which is a whole nother conversation.
She's like, I'm not gonna be able to like swing the stick for the pinata. I'm like, well, yeah, you could do it with one hand. It won't be, you know, it'll be different. Mm-hmm. Different. But let's, let's try and focus on the things that you can do. You know, and Rusty was so good at that conversation without being like, you know, don't be a wimp in any capacity.
He's like, let's focus on what you can do. You know? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Anyways, so that happened. And then, yeah, and then it was Wednesday and yesterday she went to school and we had already like had sourdough crust fermenting and [00:12:00] so we had this to look forward to. So it was another like 75, 80 degree day. We did pizza again last night.
We just set up the sprinkler and like wrapped the plastic bag around her wrists.
Jess: That's like as quintessential. Totally. Like that's like summer. Yeah. And like the plastic bag around the, like the, the cast. Like that's a core memory. I feel like she's gonna have I, I think
Laura: so too. And she's like, you know, they start like building mud soups and potions and Yeah.
And her and indie are just in this fun, it's a, it's, you know, indie's about to be 18 months, which blows my mind. This kid is, Talking like a two year old, oh my gosh. She can repeat back almost any word you say. She's like pointing to my face, like nose, eyes. She can say no. And it's the cutest thing I've ever heard in my life.
And yes, and like boo boo, ouch. And just like, I can't believe her vocabulary just exploded. She's definitely been going through a leap, but just watching them engage and interact the rest of air, just like I'm getting all the pizza ingredients and like we just get to bring it all outside to this tabletop thing.
And, and the mess. Like there's no [00:13:00] mess. I just carry all the ingredients down. And we're in that time of year where there's like local asparagus and, and like tomatoes and all this stuff to throw on these pieces. I just don't even have the words. It just brings me like, in this week there's been hard and stress and whatnot, and then also so much joy.
Mm-hmm. And then coming into the, this is EV's last week of school, which I know, you know what that's like. Mm-hmm. Where it's like there's, you know, like her naming ceremony at Forest school and like all the end of year logistics and then. I have a sourdough workshop on Saturday. We had to move her birthday.
I don't remember if I shared this or not yet, but Rusty we found out. So his wildland fire pack test is next Friday the 16th. He leaves, we found out he leaves for academy for 10 days on her birthday. Mm. On the 20th. And we had this whole birthday party plan for the 24th at this group with the group campsite and all the things.
But like. She wants him there. Mm-hmm. It's very important. So we shifted gears last minute and her birthday party's now this weekend cuz the following week, weekends, father's Day weekend. And we know people are busy, all the campsites are booked. So I ended up getting two campsites next to each other. [00:14:00] So we've got her like end of year potluck on Friday.
We've got, I, I host a sour workshop on Saturday and then on Sunday we have a birthday party and we're actually gonna camp out. And this might be our only chance to camp with Rusty this summer, you know, because he's gonna be working fire all summer long. So. Just a lot coming up. I'm, you know, all, I'm like the number of things.
I get to bake FACAs and breads and loaves to prep for the workshop, and then also her sourdough chocolate cake and, and like, it's just, again, a month ago I would've lost my mind, but right now I'm like excited and I have a plan and I've shifted my workshop to be more, to make it a little bit easier and simpler for me.
And so I just, I've, I, I'm feeling really good about everything I've got going that step. I had therapy scheduled for today and I push back to next week because I'm like, I just am kind of like, Head down, enjoying the joy, focusing on getting all the to-do lists and tasks checked off. And then next week I wanna sit down with my therapist and like really focused on okay, Rusty's about to leave for 10 days.
Mm-hmm. And then once he gets back, he could leave with a drop of a hat. I'm not gonna see him as much [00:15:00] as, you know, this summer's gonna be very different. So I wanna sit down with her next week and just like, work on tools to help me move through that and, and that kind of thing. But, Yeah, there's a lot going on.
Um, yeah, but it also feels, it feels like doable. It's like that we talked last week about the logistical load, you know, and like lessening it. And sometimes I guess my thought here is sometimes you can't lessen the actual load. Mm-hmm. But you can shift your perspective and approach to how you come at that load, I guess, or how you slowly check those things off.
So, Yeah.
Jess: Wow. Bananas. And y'all went on a trip too, right? Like y'all were on a vacation? No. Or I thought y'all went, we did Y go somewhere. Oh, wait. Oh, that's right.
Laura: Bed. That's right, that's right. And I think I, I'm trying to remember if I shared here or not. We were gonna, oh, we did, we took like a little, so we were gonna go to Bend Memorial weekend.
We decided not to, for a number of reasons. Again, just like tapping into our needs. This desire to be home, which I think you could understand, like as an [00:16:00] Enneagram seven, the fact that I am actually craving, like to stay home and be in my yard and be in my space with just my family mm-hmm. Is actually like a, I feel like it's a pretty, pretty powerful sign of growth.
Mm-hmm. I'm on my end. I'm not in this like escapism, like let's always be planning something and going somewhere. But then that next weekend, so the first Friday of June, My friend Katie and I brought our kiddo. She's got a 10 month old. I've got obviously our girls, and months ago we reserved this little, it's like this little wood cabin on the bluffs out in the Olympic National Forest.
So it's only like an hour and 45 minute drive, which that's the kind of trips that I have planned this summer is just like more local-ish, single nights, you know, just like. Pack up the cases. We, we, we set ourselves up last summer to make camping very easy. We have these two roam cases that we just have all over and keep our camping stuff in.
It's a matter of like getting help from somebody or rusty and like lifting them on and hooking them onto our racks on the top of the car, and then we could just go be in, go mode. So anyways, yeah, we went out for a night in this little cabin. I've gotten pretty good at like, [00:17:00] Just knowing the things that we need.
And I got a question about budgeting, so I'm gonna share more, but like the way we're traveling now, and I recently did actually share more about this on Instagram too, in a real, but it's just like our approach to travel has changed so much. You know, like we're focusing on, we pack our own food. Which I love.
We skip the restaurants, we do beach picnics. We go on hikes, we, you know, and so it was so fun. So we just drove out there, went down to the beach, like watched the girls just play. Evie had indie, had her first like wave tumble. But the beach out there at Clay Lock is like, It's, it's just, it's expansive and very, very small waves like roll in, especially when the tides out.
So they were just splashing in the water. She got, she like fell and kind of got like splashed by a tiny wave and had that experience, which I think is important for little kids to have to like learn to respect the ocean. Mm-hmm. And, you know, We just scooped her up and she was like, yeah, we played car games and we, I brought sourdough tortillas and we made tacos and then the next morning you just had breakfast on the bluff and it was lovely.
And then came home, met the boys, our husband's at the lake and [00:18:00] they brought sandwiches from our favorite local bakery and we ate sandwiches at the lake and then came home and still had like so much weekend left, which was lovely. So we're trying to save our time together while, cuz that Friday it worked.
Out. Well, he, rusty had an all day wildfire like refresher course, so he was busy all day anyways, so we didn't really miss time with him that we would've had otherwise. So we're really just trying to like save our time together before he starts this whole summer situation. And. It's been good. It's, I, I feel again, like just in a good head space and I think the weather's helping.
It's been sunny and like 70 degrees and that plays a huge role in my mental health as well. But yeah, so that's kind of where we're at. I've got an almost six year old, the podcast is almost six, which I think we should touch on. Oh my gosh, this one's gonna air, I, I know the day because, Our first episode aired three days before Ed was born.
Mm-hmm. So I like forever. June 17th is the podcast birthday, which is crazy to think about, but this episode goes live. On the 14th and then we'll have [00:19:00] another catch up where we like really do some more reflecting on six years of podcasting. I know which, and I know you mentioned we're like nearing a million.
Jess: Yeah, a million downloads like this year. I will be shocked if we don't hit that. It's like nine 70 something at this point. So yeah, bananas get us there, friends.
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iTunes and like finds it and just plays it, not downloaded. If you have the the space on your phone, you could stop downloading our podcast. That would be huge.
Jess: That is so sweet. You never think about you're gonna be outta service.
Laura: Yeah, I don't download most podcasts. Yeah.
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It's easier if you have it, like it doesn't use your data if you have it downloaded on your phone and you can just like listen to it or at least, I mean, it just takes up storage. Yeah, it just storage [00:22:00] space. And then I'll just delete 'em. Like after I've, I've listened to everything. At least that's what Tim told me.
I am like technologically. Just about his, like, I don't know. I don't, I'm not good with it, but that's what Tim told me. He was like, you know, to keep your data low usage, low download the podcast.
Laura: So you gotta choose data or storage. Yeah. And if we have any say save your data friends.
Jess: You gotta pay for that data.
Give us little space in your storage. Yeah. Oh man. Oh man. That's pretty nice. Anyways,
Laura: anything else? Birthdays Summer. Summer. Sol is coming on the 21st. Lots of things. Yeah. I mean, no work. That's work's. Going good. Work is, it's good. Yeah. So I will find out at, by the end of this month, whether, you know, like, what's next cuz I, I'm right now contracted for CrossFit quarterly.
I'm feeling really, I'm having great conversations with my boss. I feel very utilized, like all my pregnancy and postpartum content has gone live to affiliates and now like content and publishing are talking about using some of that stuff [00:23:00] to be more, even more public facing. I am feeling very like, fulfilled in the work that I get to do.
My team is kick ass, so I'm hoping. So basically at the end of this month, it'll be either like another quarterly contract renewal. I'm hoping to come on permanent either part-time or full-time. I think with our given circumstances, part-time would fit into what we're doing, but full-time we would just have to make some shifts and I, I would make it work.
Cause I love the work. It's, it's flexible. I get my stuff done. I, there's like trust and respect amongst the team. It's just CrossFit's a really incredible company to work for and I'm so grateful to be back full circle, you know, six years later, seven or five years later after having worked for them for five, four years.
2013 to 2018. Yeah. Wild. So that's been really great. And then also one more share that I forgot about. So I came on here and talked about how Evie, you know, we're gearing up for homeschool in the fall. We found this really cool local program, all this stuff. [00:24:00] Another shift of peers. Again, always reserving the right to change my mind.
We had like looked into this local Montessori school that is, Literally, literally, literally a block away. If I walked out into the middle of my street, like I can basically see it and they have a kindergarten, it goes up Tokin through kindergarten, and we had reached out and they were like, sorry, we're full.
And I was like, okay, we're gonna just go to homeschool right away, you know? But I, this is our last opportunity to have her in a non-public school program. We really love Montessori. I know you can relate to that. Mm-hmm. And. Outside of that, after kindergarten, it's just public school, like, you know, like a religious school.
And, and that's not the path that we wanna take. And so we know we wanna homeschool. But I love the idea of her having this kindergarten year where she's gonna learn to read what she's craving, start to learn numbers, and their, their science teachers are park rangers from the Olympic National Park. Like it's so, oh, that's so cool.
Awesome. And it's half days, so she'll go from nine to one. And then I get, and I [00:25:00] have that time to work. And then in the afternoons we're gonna prioritize getting out into the park, getting out into nature with both girls and then, you know, and so anyways, so shifting gears, she's gonna have this year at the Montessori kindergarten down the street.
Jess: That is so fun. And then we'll, I'm
Laura: super excited and then we'll shift into, we can't pass it up. I mean Yeah. You know, it's like five days a week. It's down the street. We, her forest school is 30 minutes, 25, 30 minutes away. So if you think about that, now that we don't have our carpool anymore, cuz they moved closer to the forest school.
So right now Rusty is driving, he's in the car like two hours a day with India in the car in the morning so that I can still have my work time. And so that time, getting that time alone back plus. The gas, you know, and we toured it and vie was like she didn't wanna leave. And now every time we walk past it or drive past it, she's like, that's my new school.
Like, she's so excited. Oh, so it feels really right. And I had to like grieve a little bit the loss of, cause she was gonna go to the forest school for one more
Jess: year. Okay. That's what I was asking. I didn't, couldn't remember if like she aged out of the forest [00:26:00] school or if it was like she had
Laura: aged out of any five day a week option.
Okay. But the fun thing is she, so she was gonna be like on the older end of the skills one class this coming fall this year. Mm-hmm. But now we'll skip that year at Forest School and the following year she will be old enough cuz they go seven to 10. She can go into the skills two class, so she can still go.
So in for her first grade year, which will be fall 2024, I'll homeschool use that local program. She'll be in first grade and she'll get to go to skills two, twice a week. So it just, and then that, that winter. Like, so I guess January, 2025, which is crazy to even think about. Indie gets to go to the forest school, so they'll get tola.
So anyways, in case you're wondering about all the logistics, which I get questions about a lot, so I'm glad you're here. Yeah, if you're curious, that's what's going on in my world. I can't share it on social media. I have no plans to, at least not in any time soon. So that is what's happening in our world a lot Again, Logistics.
Right. Like so many shifts. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But it, it feels like [00:27:00] all those logistics are falling into this like giant puzzle and they're exactly how they're supposed to be unfolding. Hmm.
Jess: Hmm. I love it so much. I'm so excited for Montessori school. I just have like, obviously, oh giddy, a special, special place in my heart for the approach and I just have a feeling Evie's gonna love it.
Like, I think she's gonna blossom and bloom there. Like especially if you, you've said she's already craving kind of some of that like more structured. Yeah. I mean, it's not, I mean, it's not even like that structured in terms of like the Montessori approach, but just like that classroom style. I don't know.
It's just, it's sweet. It is. It's like, to me, the perfect balance of like, Structure and freedom in the classroom. So it's
Laura: gonna be great. Yeah, you've inspired me a lot and it's always been on my radar. We haven't had an opportunity. It's always been full. Yeah. So the fact that this spot opened up, I was like, I feel like this is the way it's supposed to go this, this fall.
And the teachers were amazing. They're so flexible. We'll save a little bit of money, which is crazy to think about considering, you know, this is an actual classroom I should learn to read. It's a [00:28:00] small class. We know other kids there already. Her best buddy who we're neighbors with, who turned us on to the pizza oven, her daughter's gonna be there three days a week.
In the preschool. So she's a year younger than E. Mm-hmm. So we get to overlap in that capacity too. And like I, I, I believe it's a normal Montessori thing to have the different ages at least. Oh yeah. Certain times of day overlap. Mm-hmm. So they'll get time together
Jess: still. Yeah, usually. Well, like in our experience, the classroom, so there's the toddler classroom, there's primary, which is, there's like a three year age range, and then there's.
Elementary and then there's like upper and lower L. So there's like, they're like ages. They're with kids who are like within a three year age range in the same classroom. And I think that's fairly typical. It may not be like three years for everyone, but like usually there's a range of ages together learning.
And part of that is like they, like the young ones get to learn from the guy, the teacher, but also. From the older kiddos and the older kiddos learn by [00:29:00] teaching the younger kiddos and like showing and you know, explaining things and so it's just a really cool.
Laura: Model. I love that so much. I know. Yeah. And there's a lot of similarities to the forest school, but now there's like, you know, on the walk over there, she's like, mama, I just, I feel like I'm ready for, you know, a classroom again.
And she's just such a creative, like, she wants like real deal art supplies. Mm-hmm. And like a reading corner and mm-hmm. They have all these cool wood things that she, she walks in and just like, I could just see her light up. And I think she needs to be simulated in that way for a while. And then it will also be good for me and Indy self.
Especially because, because Evie's at Forest school all day, when she gets home, I'm not as much like, okay, let's get you outside. Mm-hmm. Cause I know she's been out there for four or five hours. Mm-hmm. So now my plan is to like close everything up after school and, and she has outdoor time, but not in the forest.
Mm-hmm. And so like more, you know, really prioritize that time for the three of us together to get out into it. And I think that'll be great too. So, It's gonna be great. That's, I'm excited for you. The place. Thank you.
Jess: Yeah. And how like breezy to just be like, okay, [00:30:00] we're gonna walk for a, or to school in the morning.
Like that's just like, I know because I know that that like whole carpool transportation, that has been like just a challenge I think. I mean, for y'all in the last like year or so and so it's been Yeah. Yeah. A biggest pain point. Yeah. This will be huge. Huge.
Laura: Whew. Cool. All right, well that's the latest here.
What is going on in your world? I, I feel like we haven't had much opportunity to, to catch up
Jess: this week, so I know, I know you had like sent a boxer and then I was like, okay, I'm gonna come back on. And then I was like, well, we're just gonna talk on Thursday. And so it's like, I always know, it's like, I don't know, it's like we are such good friends and, but it's like interesting because.
We don't always get to talk like us outside of our podcast episodes, but like it's just a special time for us to kind of fill each other in and, you know, it's like, I, I don't have a [00:31:00] ton going on actually. I mean, we kind of do. It's just. Just in a weird place right now. And I know I've had a couple people like reach out after the last couple episodes because I've kind of shared a little bit of that, you know, just like mentally how, how I've been feeling.
And physically it's, you know, there's been challenges and like personally, like even this morning without. Sharing too much. There's just a lot going on with Tim's dad. And so Tim is actually going to Corpus like just a really last minute change of plans. I think he actually just left last minute change of plans where, you know, we got some information last night and he was like, I, I need to go to Corpus tomorrow to kind of like take care of some things.
And so he is headed there this morning. So it's like, It's just a lot of, just challenges. I, I think in the midst of a lot of like really good things, like Summer has the transition this year has been. Uh, a lot smoother, I [00:32:00] think, than in the past for me, at least, like mentally. And part of that has probably to do with like, me being a little bit like, what am I doing with my life?
There's not a, technically a lot on my plate, whereas in past summers there's, you know, it's, there's been a lot for me to try and like balance work wise. And so that's a bonus, but it's also. Like, so I've been doing chiropractic care and I just had my second 12 week scan, so I've been doing it for no, 12 week, four week, four week, four week scan.
So I've been doing the chiropractic care consistently for eight weeks and it's been great. And this last scan, I'm just like all over the place this morning, but this last scan showed me things are improving with my like spine and my nervous. Well, not necessarily my nervous system, we'll get into that, but like my spine itself and like the, the muscles around my spine are really like improving and that's been great.
It's been slow going, but but also expected, like I [00:33:00] expected it to be that. And especially after like chatting with the chiropractors that I'm working with, like, it's just like, you know, we've gotta show up, do these things. Go take a lot of steps back physically from what I was doing in terms of like working out and exercise before I got injured.
Just even like going back to like literally I'm doing like, like I just had a baby and I am doing like rebuilding my core from like, The ground up, which has been good. You and Rusty kind of both. Right. Has he
Laura: been doing too, doing that too? Oh yeah. Cuz of his, his, all his surgery and everything has been like huge steps.
Steps like way slow down. I feel like he's postpartum is what it feels like for his training.
Jess: I mean, yeah, essentially it is. It's like, you know, whenever you have that sort of damage to. Like your core, you really have to like relearn everything. And I'm sure he's going through probably a lot of the, I don't know, he's probably handing a lot more gracefully than I am, but like I, it's frustrating at times as someone who has been mostly physically, like very physically [00:34:00] active through their life.
It's frustrating. But at the same time, I know this is like a really good foundation for the rest of my life. Like I have to think long term here, which I haven't necessarily done. In the last like 10 years since having kids. So it's good. It's good. Like I can feel my abdominals working in ways that they never have.
I can feel my breath integrating in ways that it never has. Like I'm just so much more aware and it's good. It's really, really good. My nervous system, however, like part of the scan, they are measuring like your heart rate variability, which is this indicator of like nervous system, like where you're at.
It's indi indicative of a lot of things, but that is just really hanging out in fight or flight. Which is interesting to me because I feel like there's a lot, I feel like there's no big, like, it's not like my partner's having abdominal surgery or you know, like my kid has broken their arm. There's no like re really one like [00:35:00] challenges that are happening, but it's like this low level I was talking to.
Matt, who's one of the chiropractors that's, that's been working with me. I'm like, it's just, it's, it's like your hierarchy of needs, right? Like you remember that per pyramid where it's like your basic needs. You need to feel secure in these like basic things like food, shelter, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
And it's not like we're like, You know, gonna lose her house or anything like that. It just feels like, I don't know what's coming next. Cuz there's been a lot of shifts with like my work and with Tim's work like that he's building. And I feel like even though in my heart, like I know everything's gonna be okay, like my brain cannot wrap.
Its, it's mind, it's brain around. The fact that that like, we're gonna be okay. It's like anticipating like, okay, like what's gonna happen? What's gonna happen? Like I can't shut it off. And so therefore I think that's like translating into just like a prolonged stress response, like low [00:36:00] level stress response.
And so it's nothing like catastrophic, like when you look at my scans, but it's just like my body is having a hard time regulating back to kind of like. Like decompressing essentially. So I feel that like I'm just feeling that. I'm feeling that constantly. I'm feeling like, Tim and I were talking about it this morning where I feel just like disconnected from like my faith, which is really hard.
I feel not just like, like, oh my gosh, I don't, I don't believe anymore. It's more just like I. I'm in a place where in most of my life I have released a lot of control in a lot of areas cuz I feel like there's a higher power for me that is in control. And right now I'm like s I like willingly am like knowingly am like, yeah, that's true, but like, I don't [00:37:00] wanna necessarily believe that.
And I wanna take control and I feel like I need to do all these things to make sure that like we're gonna be okay. And so I'm like kind of like willingly, you know, in the morning I used to like spend time with my Bible and like doing, you know, readings and like journaling and stuff. And it's like every morning I wake up and I'm like, I could do that.
I could do that, but I don't want to. It's like willingly just choosing not to. I don't know, like do the things that I know that will help me. And it's like I, I'm aware of it. It's not even like I'm, I am unaware as I'm going through this. It's like I just don't want to, and we're talking, Tim and I were talking this morning and it feels like he was reading this book and it, it was termed like desolation, which sounds like dramatic desolation reminds me of Lord of the Rings.
But like, it's this feeling that just is like kind of like, Underlying hopelessness. This sounds so bad. This sounds like [00:38:00] people should probably like check in on me that like, am I doing okay? But it's just, it's not, it's not to that degree of like, whoa, something's wrong. It's just a low level of kind of like apathy friend and I am just in it and like, Hopeful and still praying that like I will make my way out of it soon.
But like, I don't know, it's just an interesting place to be for someone who has like lived most of their life in an optimistic, positive, happy go-lucky state. So that's where I'm at mentally and emotionally and
Laura: that's a lot. Acknowledging all of that in and of itself is a lot. And then, Thinking about working through it has gotta just feel it's, I mean, that's huge.
It goes beyond any sort of like logistical load of like planning your. Weak. Right. And it's like it's, I mean, it's like pretty existential.
Jess: It is existential. That's exactly what it is. [00:39:00] And it's, it's like I, I don't know, it's almost like such a cliche. I feel like I'm going through this kind of like midlife crisis unintentionally, where I'm just like, what am I doing?
Like what is. What is life like? What is, what's next? Like, it's like I've lived half of my life and now I'm entering into this. It's not like I've, I've talked about this before. It's not like I've ever been like, oh my God, 40. Like, I'm so scared. Like I've never knowingly felt that way, but like it feels like something is shifting as I'm nearing this like milestone age and I feel, I just feel.
Like I am, I am existing versus like thriving. So that's kind of where I'm at. And I, you know, physically I'm not feeling well. I feel like I have aged, like I. I feel like I've aged like 10 years in the last year, and I have no idea why. I'm just like looking in the [00:40:00] mirror. I'm like, whoa. Like I look different.
And again, this could just be like mentally, like a kind of like a dysmorphic thing. But I keep asking Tim, I'm like, have I always looked this way? I look tired. I look and I'm getting plenty of sleep. I just feel. I look tired. I feel like I've got, and, and again, like aging is a, is a, a normal process. And Tim and I talk about this all the time cuz uh, he's like, you are getting older.
And I'm like, I know, but like, I feel like it's sped up in the last like, couple years and like I've got all these gray hairs and which I've always had, but like, I mean they, they're like popping and I'm just feeling different. I'm feeling different, and it's a weird, it's a weird feeling. I'm not feeling like myself physically, emotionally, mentally, and so now I think what's for me next is just how do I transition into whatever's next and not knowing what's next is hard.
I mean, I feel like I'm just repeating myself. It's just a lot of. [00:41:00] Unknown space ahead of me. This sounds so dramatic.
Laura: Well, yeah. And it's like, that's life, right? Like the, the, the what's ahead is always unknown. Mm-hmm. But having a deeper awareness of it mm-hmm. Just can make it so freaking overwhelming. So I know,
Jess: I know.
Part of me just wishes I was like, Blindly skating through life and not aware. It might be easier, but it's, I mean this, but not
Laura: as fulfilling. Yes. And not as, not as deep of a life
Jess: lived, I feel like. Yeah. And I feel like there's so much good ahead. It's just, and we're in just like a holding pattern in a lot of ways, and so, It's gonna be okay.
I do, I truly feel that in my, like bones and I feel that like I have the capacity and I've seen this play out in my life, um, just hundreds of times before to reinvent myself, to do something new, to try a new path. And that is part of my story. And I feel like there's more to that, more of that to come.
And I [00:42:00] just wish I knew what it was. Like, what was next? So anyways, that's kind of a, a little bit about how things are going with me. I'm feeling stronger physically. It's just also like we talked about this, about this at the chiropractor. Cause it's like I, they ask a bunch of questions about like, you know, you're just a bunch of questions when they do this check-in.
And I was like, I feel like. Now more than ever, I realize how important movement is and like regular physical activity that that is challenging enough to where you feel like I just expended a good amount of energy and there's value. So much value in like walking and gentle yoga and you know, stretching.
That's incredibly valuable. But like at the same time, if I'm not expending. Enough energy throughout the day. My sleep is affected because I don't haven't created the sleep debt, and then my eating patterns are affected because I'm not creating this like need for. Nourishment in my body. Like I'm feeling that to my core.
Like my, [00:43:00] my eating's all wonky, my appetite is weird. My sleep is okay, but like, at the same time, it's like, I'm not like falling into bed, like ready to go to sleep at night, which has, that's like never been the case for me. And so it just like, I have to be patient. I'm working back to this like cornerstone habit, habit of movement that I think will really have a, a ripple cascade effect for me.
So it's really given me like a, a real, like a, a strong sense of empathy for people who can't be physically active for various reasons or in a season of life where they're prolonged like, you know, Like they haven't been able to move or they have to be sedentary for like a prolonged period of time, or you know, for various reasons.
Like they have got a schedule where like they can't get, get physical activity in. Like, I have so much em, so much more empathy for those who are in the same like boat because it's so. It just, [00:44:00] I just feel like physical activity is such a cornerstone thing. Do you know what I mean? Like, do you feel that way ever?
Like if when you're not moving, like things are, are not good?
Laura: I, I, I literally cannot.
Jess: I cannot. I know, and it's like, I guess I just never really realized the impact, you know what I mean? I think that's what I'm trying to say. In a long, long, very dark this
Laura: season of my life. When I, when I was in chronic pain and I had to like dramatically reduce my movement and find new ways to move, it ended up being a very powerfully, like, important time of my life.
But it was, it was dark. Yeah. For me, I mean, movement is, it's so important and I just wish people, I wish more people understood that you don't have to be like, A non-stop mover like me, everybody, no matter, even if you're a nine and you love the couch and blankets like moving is so medicinal. It's
Jess: wild.
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Oh my gosh. And I'm like, I mean, it's like a hard lesson I'm learning, but like never gonna take it for granted again. Like I really am not, like, even this morning I woke up and I'm still feeling it, like it's just weird. Like, I don't know if I slept on my arm wrong or what, but like feeling this weird like nervy pain into my arm where it's just like low level there and I'm like, oh my gosh.
Like and to ha and people in pain, like true pain 24 7. It, it does something to you. It's like, it, it becomes, we were talking about this at the chiropractor. It's like your brain has real, like when you have pain or discomfort, your brain creates this like pathway to it, like neurologically physically to where it's so aware.[00:47:00]
It's aware of it and that that pathway gets reinforced and then trying to get out of that pain, even when you are out of that pain, you have to like break this like pathway and this like awareness, even if it's not there anymore or to the same level. You have to like retrain your brain and it's just like, it's wild.
It's wild. You read tomorrow, and tomorrow
Laura: and tomorrow, right? Yes. I'm in it right now. Oh, I'm not done. I, it's so good. And I keep thinking of, I keep thinking about Sam. Yes. Oh my gosh. And like, and the phantom pain and like the, the foot and the, and just like living with that. Cause I think back to when I was in chronic pain and it like, I.
Totally disrupted every component of my day for the most part. And he just, uh, yeah. Anyways, I just, I, I can't imagine. I really
Jess: can't. Yeah, it is, it's, it's bananas. And so while I'm not like claiming that I'm in this, like, significant amount of pain or anything like that, it's just. I, I feel like felt relative too.
Yeah. I feel like I have, I'm scratching the surface of what that's like and it's hard. And so my heart just goes out to people [00:48:00] who are in a similar boat and yeah, that's kind of like where I'm at. And then, you know, on the positive side, let's talk about some positives to kind of wrap this up because I do like to not trying to like be like, oh, everything's fine, but like, I think there's immense power in gratitude and focusing on the things that are like.
Amazing because there's plenty of that, you know, even in the midst of hard. And so what's amazing right now is we had, you know, the weather's been amazing. It's starting to get hot, but the last like. The first couple weeks of summer, it was like, because we've had so much rain, uncharacteristic amounts of rain for this time of year, like it's just been cooler and like more pleasant outside.
However, the flip side of that, the mosquitoes are so happy. So mosquito season down here in Texas has been like off the chain because of the rain. It is like bananas. They're like, Little dinosaurs flying around the air and we even treat our [00:49:00] yard with this like safer option. And it's still like, it's just, you've got to like do yourself in bug spray when you go outside right now.
But we've been sitting being able to spend a lot more time outside because of the weather. The pool opened and we're doing a lot of that and it feels great because the sun is just so. Powerful. It's like such a powerful medicine. The other day I was having just, I was in my fields and everyone wanted to go to the pool and I didn't really wanna go because of variety of reasons.
And I went and I was just like, you know, Tim took the kids and like, you know, did the dad thing in the pool and like threw 'em around and I just got to kind of sit in the sun and I was like, I feel happy. I feel instantaneously happier being outside and just soaking up. That vitamin D was so great. So we've been spending a lot of time at the pool.
So Bear is at summer camp this week. It's not a sleepaway camp, but it's in the town over. He's staying with our friends, so they are doing the pickup and drop off every day and he's spending the night with, with them. And he's spent the [00:50:00] night there like just, I mean, hundreds of times since he was born. So it's all just great.
We're getting so like, I miss him, so. So much. He is just like my little buddy, but he's having like literally the time of his life, so much fun. And so he's at sleepaway ca or summer camp and then Camie, we are having also the time of our life and it has been so great. Like she, she, she was born to be an only child.
And she is like living her best life without, I mean, she misses her brother. She said she, we asked her if she missed bar and she was like, no way. But she like made him a welcome home sign already, like the first day he was gone. So I know there's like, you know, she's loving the attention and she's loving getting, you know, both of her parents.
To herself for like the first time, probably since she was born, and it's been really, really awesome. But at the same time, I know she misses her brother, so we've just been doing a lot together. Like she loves the chiropractor. She's like, she, I think she's an Enneagram four. [00:51:00] And when we walk into the chiropractor, it's like this really cool vibe.
There's like, they have like E M F covers over like the, you know, the industrial, like office lights and they have these like twinkle lights and they have this plant wall and they have this like, Really you have to take your shoes off when you come inside and there's this like rug that's like a cow hide, like a real cow hide rug and there's music and like soft lights and she adores it.
Every time I'm like, do you wanna come to the chiropractor with me? Cuz it's like a 45 minute drive. She's like, yes, I wanna go. And she wants to get adjusted. And so we've been having like really special time driving to and fro. And like the other day we went and we had to kill some time between my appointments and we went thrifting, which she loves.
Thrifting. She's like my little thrift buddy. So we got her some summer clothes and some new shoes and she just like, just so cute. She is, it's funny cuz oftentimes I'll say like, Baron and I are a lot alike, but the more I get like [00:52:00] the more personality that Kimmy like starts to develop and then kind of step into.
We are like in a lot of ways, which is really, really cool. And her and her dad are very similar in a lot of ways, but like we share a lot of the same interests and so it's really just easy to be with her. And so we are baking a lot. We made these like, oh my God, we made these the most incredible blondies.
I've never had a blonie in my life, but we watch a lot of like kids bake show and they always are doing blondies. And we're like, we're gonna make blondies. So we have this list of things we're gonna bake all summer. And they were on 'em, so we made 'em and they were like, I'm not kidding. They were life changing.
They were like the most buttery, salty, caramelly things I've ever eaten. And so we made blondies and then yesterday we made a red velvet cake, which is my, one of my favorite desserts on the planet. And so we made that, like we've just been baking a lot. She has been really stepping into her own, like she made her own breakfast yesterday, like on the stove, which gives me a lot of like kind of [00:53:00] anxiety, but she.
There's a lot of power in letting her, like she wants to do things on her own, and so the more and more comfortable we get with her, like using tools and the stove and the oven, it's just really fun to watch her be like, okay, I'm gonna make my own breakfast this morning. And so she's been doing that. We took her to the movies yesterday to see a Little Mermaid because Bear had no interest in seeing it, and so, Her, me and Tim went and she just, she just loved it.
She's, she's living her best life and so that's kind of what's going on with the kiddo end. She also is my kiddo who's like not really that interested in doing any sort of summer camps, and Bear is very interested in doing summer camps, so we have him in like three other soccer camps, so he's gonna start doing that.
Another one. Next week we're going on a family. So growing up, every year we went to our family reunion on one of the rivers here in Texas called the Frio River. Frio means cold and it's really cold, but it's a beautiful river and so I haven't been in a [00:54:00] while. My mom invited us cuz it's like the hundred year anniversary of this family reunion.
And so we got a house with my siblings and my mom and we're gonna do that over Father's Day weekend. And so it's gonna be great cuz just anytime the cousins get together and get to kind of like frolic outside is beautiful. So we're gonna do that next weekend and I'm trying to think if there's anything else big.
I got to see my nephew play. He's a base little baseball player and so that he got invited to the little league All Star. Team, and so they had their last game last weekend, and so I don't know, I just, there's just a lot of like really normal, really wonderful things happening. And so those are some of the positives, feeling getting better, healing slowly.
Kids are really living their best life and we've got a couple, a little small trips to look forward to, and that's where we're at. I think that I just like verbally vomited for like 20 [00:55:00] minutes, but
Laura: bring on the puke. I love it. And I, I just appreciate too, like the, the well rounded nature of life and the way that you just, you share it all like so authentically.
It's like you go from like existential intense, but then also like there's levity and there's joy and a good reminder to me and to everyone that those all can coexist and they will. Yeah. Can't fight it. They will.
Jess: I mean, that's life, right? Like that is just totally, that's like one of the biggest lessons I think that I have learned in this almost 40 years is like it all, like it's never going to be perfect, but it is.
You know what I mean? Like mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You're my idea of perfection. Maybe like everyone's happy all the time. We have everything that we need all the time. There's never any questions and that's not gonna happen for me. You know? I mean, because realistically life is, Life is what it is, but it's perfect in that like, this is what it is.
Like this is, this is life and I'm living it and I'm here and I'm engaged, and I'm like, you know, we're in it. And [00:56:00] we're not like looking away from the hard and we're accepting those challenges, but we're also experiencing like intense moments of joy and fun. And I think the, the second half of my life here is what I'm stepping into is like, this is life and it's okay.
So I feel like I was always seeking, sorry, to kind of wrap this up, like seeking to get to this moment where like everything is good and now I'm learning that like everything is good even now, so I don't have to keep looking for it. So that's kind of my takeaway.
Laura: There's good in there right now. Yeah.
Because it's never, uh, like it will always, like you said, that will always be perfectly imperfect. Yeah. So just the like versus trying to always find this. Arbitrary end goal. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's just this is it. This is right
Jess: here. Yeah, right here. Two, I mean, that's, yeah, that's it. Oh, okay. I feel like I have no more words.
No more words. All gone. Oh, gone. [00:57:00] But much needed. I feel like, gosh, I feel like. I was waiting for this catch up episode to kind of do a little of processing, so yeah,
Laura: that's it. When we first had on pre-recording, you're like, what's up? I was like, let's just press go. I'm not sure.
Jess: We'll see what comes outta my mouth.
Totally. Oh, the best. Awesome friend. Well, I love you and I hope that your. Yeah, just, I mean, I'm sure you'll keep us, keep us posted. Keep me posted and we'll keep continuing to process through here. But thinking about y'all, thinking about Little Evie and you too. Your birthday coming up soon and yeah.
Anyways, so wild. Thanks for tuning in. Lord Lords.
Laura: Lords, our Lords, and ladies.
Jess: Oh my God. I need to go. Someone take my mic away. Someone.
Laura: No, just take it. Take it.
Jess: Turn it off. My Lords and ladies, thanks for tuning in lords and ladies, you'll enjoy your day. Okay?
Laura: Okay, [00:58:00] bye. Okay, bye. I dunno what to say. Thanks for
Jess: listening to our podcast.
See you next time. Thanks for listening to our podcast. See you next time. Bye.